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Jimmy Carr

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Poor/Cynical attempt at salvaging some good public opinion. Paying 3.5k in tax on 268K earnings when everyone else is being fleeced is rather cuntish tbf.

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Cameron is no better. He inherited 300k from a similar offshore scheme.

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i couldnt give 2 fucks about this and Cameron coming out and publicly criticsing him is beyond pathetic, especially seeing as his da was up to the same tricks with offshore accounts in Panama etc.

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Agree on cameron but surely there must be a blanket way of closing these types of loopholes for the rich?

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A communist republic of UK.

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I just find it laughable that he's targetting Carr and Take That etc.

What about the bigger picture? All the people that have jobs in the venues and averything to do with these shows and their careers in general?

the pubs, restaurants etc that are busy because a gig is on in the area and whatever else.

Jimmy Carr's tax evasion isnt even a drop in the ocean ffs.

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Carr not really being targeted, cameron just using him as a coincidental example (hypocritical cunt that he is) but there's loads of jimmy carr's out there doing the same thing while joe public pays normal tax rates including you and I.

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call it what u want

my point is that alot of these people create more good for the economy in terms of jobs and spending in the hotel and leisure industry than their tax schemes are taking away from it.

so it's just really sensationalist to highlight cases like this and it's an easy shot for him to take to try and make him look good

the fuckin wank

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Id name and shame every single fucking one of em and fair play to Cameron naming the cunt, those fuckers earn way more than us and pay less tax!!?? fuck that, that’s wrong on so many scales that millionaires are paying less into the economy than us lot

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and just because these cunts create jobs etc or give slight boosts to local areas when they play in em gives them no excuse to avoid paying taxes, they're earning fucking millions & paying back what 1% whilst we get fleeced like fuck for 40%.. HANG EM!!

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Cameron will never name and shame those linked to his party. The amount of tax avoidance from big donors like Vodaphone makes Carr's dodge look like fuck all wrapped up in far less.

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its such a small issue though, fuck it, focus on more important things

also, these wealthy people spend a considerable amount of their earnings in local businesses etc, so again, it probably evens itself out in terms of an overall effect

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the money saved on tax avoidance far outweighs in the money coming in I'd say (no stats to prove it though and couldn't be fucked looking for them).

We'd all love to pay 1% tax but we don't get the choice. Should be the same for everyone no matter what you earn.

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Do they fuck, they may buy a more expensive car (probably imported) bigger TV etc etc and holiday abroad a lot more often but im pretty sure they eat out, goto the movies, buy in tescos or whatever like the rest of us so how are they offsetting exactly?

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i can guarantee u that someone like jimmy carr spends a fuck load more (in disposal income terms) than i do

plus like i said, people like that actually create jobs, pay rates on their business premises, PAYE, employers NIC etc etc etc

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Im not disputing that he contributes to the economy in other ways but the fact remains us plebs have to pay 40% of our earnings to the man and that cunt whose worth a lot more is paying a lot less and theres just no way to cut it that isnt blatantly wrong.

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BTW, i'm not sayin it's right, I'm sayin I dont really give a shit cos your talking about a tiny amount of money and they contribute to the economy in ways that a normal employee does not

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I particulary dont give a shit either but it does erk the fuck out of me handing over 40% of my wages to the government yet that cunt is handing out a lot less

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get into a tax scheme then ;-)

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or start ur own business, like most of these people have done

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Fair play. If I could get away with doing it I'd be in like Flynn.

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I've more of a problem with people who claim benefits they dont need tbh, theyre a bigger problem than the rich tax avoiders

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"he contributes to the economy", aye tell that to the rest of us who are fleeced like fuck with tax, the amount taken from us actually matters more when you're trying to get through the month.

he's a cunt, and so is cameron, and anyone who voted tory.

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"my point is that alot of these people create more good for the economy in terms of jobs and spending in the hotel and leisure industry than their tax schemes are taking away from it."

Really sick of this idea of 'wealth creators', people have the ability to create wealth because the state puts things into place that make it possible:

- a healthy & educated popualtion
- the state brings foreign investment to the country
- subsidies - either directly or indirectly
- public services throughout the wealth creators lifetime.

The idea that these people take nothing/little from the state is a laughable

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"I've more of a problem with people who claim benefits they dont need tbh, theyre a bigger problem than the rich tax avoiders"

multiply the benefit bill by 50 and it still is below the amount of money lost through tax avoidance, the majority of benefits are spent on the eldery and families btw, including those with jobs - hardly the type of people that can do without them

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Gary Barlow another one that benefited from EBTs

Take That to be stripped of number 1's for use of EBTs

Nah, they get to keep their history.

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i specifically said people who claim benefits who dont need them

whether sick of the idea of wealth creation or not, it doesnt mean it doesnt have an effect on the economy.

People who claim benefits fraudulently dont contribute anything to the economy

anyway, i'm not condoning tax evasion, i just said when u look at the bigger picture its pretty insignificant and it's just a cheap shot from Cameron

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benefits fraud makes up a tiny % of the benefits bill and you can see that from government stats
- tax avoidance is in teh 100s of billions per year

people on benefits contribute to the economy, they spend all of their money within the local economy. those engaging in tax avoidance tend to take money out of the economy as the money is shifted outside the UK to off shore tax schemes.

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tax avoidance from individuals is nowhere near 100's of billions u clown

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in total its estimated at about 70 billion, most of that is made up of corportaion tax evasion, not income tax

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sorry for calling u a clown, lets all be mates

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you do understand the difference between evasion and avoidance matt?

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What percentage of people claiming benefits also work without paying the tax on the pay.

There going in both guns blazing, double stroking

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sorry, meant avoidance

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we create their wealth.

how much money has he made from the bbc which is for the most part public funded?

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Can't believe you called me a clown, I've been using my big name status to say good things about Twitch as well.

Tax aoidance from business and indivuals costs 100s of billions. Don't forget that indivuiduals also register themselves as businesses for the purposes of tax avoidance.

People doing the double - claiming benefits and getting cash in hand are still spending the money within teh economy...tax avoidance takes money outside of the UK. simples yo

who si to say a person on benefits shouldn't be able to make a few quid produce films and music whilst dodgin tv license taxation and tax as a small business

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Seems a bit silly that you can choose to avoid tax to me, that the morality of it is left for the individual to decide and that the law allows for it. A nice 20k tax free allowance on income followed with progressive taxes over a number of bands with a higher tax rates in the top income brackets is the way forward.

The fact that these things are legal makes it the fault of the law makers for me. As Jimmy said his adviser asked him did he want to pay lass tax legally and he said yes. Hardly evil personified.

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On his twitter he's backed down from the scheme.

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i agree with macready however, if i could get away with giving less £ to the govt i would too. They waste most of it anyway.

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Sure the government pisses money away, better than simply removing it from the UK economy and hording it abroad. the attitude to tax is strange in this country, Germans and French welcome high taxation as part of being a citizen.

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Good work by the media in promoting a scheme that had only 1000 odd users to the whole of the UK. They're loving the publicity.

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Mattb
today @ 10:39 a.m.

I've more of a problem with people who claim benefits they dont need tbh, theyre a bigger problem than the rich tax avoiders

It's actually the absolute opposite. Your 'theories' on Trickle Down Economics are shared by Osbourne and co, and the reason why we're in the worst biggest depression since the 30's.

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I'd agree that morally I have more of an issue with benefit frauders. Economically though it ain't as damaging as high level tax dodging i'd imagine.

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God it fucking winds me to see young men without much dough supporting these schemes as some of it "might" flow down to us serfs who of course pay all our taxes, get hit directly when anything (food, swall, tabs) goes up in price or when there are job cuts/cuts in services.

The absolute disconnect between peoples actual situations and political opinions/ideas is getting to American levels of lunacy.

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It's not a theory though, its there for all to see

i'm ignoring your last statement

ive said all i wanna say on this anyway, i dont agree with tax avoidance

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I have more of an issue with us letting in cunts who contribute fuck all to our economy but can claim of it

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Just seen this on twitter 3.bp.blogspot.com/-Tps...

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But sure Vodafone employ people, spend money in the UK...*puts Mattb hat on* they probably benefit the economy more than they cost it through legal tax avoidance

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haha

i was talking about income tax avoidance, corporations are on another level completely

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if anyone on here found a legal way to avoid some of their tax they'd do it. just because someone has a rare skill i.e. being a skilled comedian, and therefore earns a high wage doesnt mean they cant do the same

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