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New one is out.

Macbook Air style thinness with retina display.

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Yep.

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Gis a laugh, how much?

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1799 apparently. Bit steep m8. I believe there will be non-retina cheaper versions.

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was going to get a new mac a month or so ago, been waiting on the new ones.

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If that price is accurate, its ridiculous. Hopefully they still have standard ones a bit cheaper. I'm planning an upgrade some stage as well.

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You could just go on the Apple Store right now and confirm for yourself that the price is accurate, as well as the fact that there are non-retina Macbooks for sale too.

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Or you could do it for me.

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Classic s

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So no more MacBook. Entry level pro 999, entry level air 849, retina 1799

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double link fail+triple post fail=bad start to the day

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Was hoping there would be an upgrade to the 13" MBP soon

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Didnt know there was an 11" mac book air. Interesting. Be the ideal replacement for my 13" MacBook.

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I'm replacing my MacBook with the 13" air. Most likely.

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Apple website isn't showing the new spec airs yet.

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Those retina display prices are wild! I'm more than happy with the standard macbook pro display from last year.

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Can someone explain to me what they mean by Flash architecture. I presume they arent talking Flash as in Adobe.

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it just means fancy Cemac

as in, that car is dead flash

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do Apple quote as a % or even as a ratio how much shinier the latest product is to the previous?
If every one was to but a macbook and an iphone, the reverse glare of the sun from such shiny products would burn a hole in the ozone layer...a study found

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I'm assuming flash architecture is referring to the SSDs they're using instead of traditional hard drives.

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wtf is retina dispaly?

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Its the display on the newer iphones and ipads. Double the resolution of the normal ipad/iphone/macbook displays (I think its double anyway).

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Don't think I'd go for it on a laptop, gotta be a big battery drain.

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Mehcrea

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I would imagine the immense battery life of current Macbooks will be destroyed by the new display. I'd also be interested in what size the SSDs are cos they tend to be quite small capacity - if they are anywhere near usable for a laptop (i.e. 320 or 500 GB) i'd say that's where a lot of the cost of the new macbooks comes from, along with the new displays.

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No need for a big Hdd in this cloud storage based world. Or atleast that's the thinking.

I've a 500gb Hdd in my MacBook, 90% of which is shite I dont really need or dint play out for djing. With a bit of fore thought I'd have my music organised for djing and nowhere near hitt capacity.

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the old white macbook i currently use daily has a 150gb HD and i've never needed more.

i store little and delete things like TV shows and films as soon as i watch them.

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AFAIK you only need an SSD as big as your OS (no idea what size the iOS's are) and maybe a program or two if you really wanted. They will be the industry standard in a few years. Dell have included the option on Laptops for some time now but very pricey. A guy connected over 20 SSD's using raid and the computer was seriously fast, i'll try to find the youtube video for it. He, wanting to connect drives and see peak performance, is not using a MAC

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"So no more MacBook. Entry level pro 999, entry level air 849, retina 1799"

Macbook was discontinued months ago. Its been Air and MBpro just for ages.

I was thinking that too PJ. Because I have a 500gb HD on my mbpro i just keep loads of shit on it that I don't need instead of deleting it. SSDs are expensive so this mbpro was never gonna be cheap. The standard 256gb hd on the new MBpro would suffice for me - i'm sure you could upgrade it in future when prices come down.

I'm not in any way sad to see the optical drive go. I use mine maybe 3 times per year. I stopped using my imac optical drive completely because its shite.

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I paid the extra for the "superdrive" on my iMac. I never use it either, loud as fuck.

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i've been burning disks for the car the past few days. i think in the 4 years i've had this macbook, other than watching maybe 3 or 4 dvds, this is the first time the drive has been used.

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I rarely use the drive either tbf.

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Michael, mine scratches discs. You can only get a disc in without scratching if you face the drive and slowly (and I mean slowwwwwwwly) and carefully slot it in. Its been in the store twice and they refuse to acknowledge that its down to shite design - instead they've replaced the drive twice. My gf's iMac has the same problem.

Apple has a design ethic that i love but occasionally they let design get in the way of functionality then refuse to admit to their fuck up.

Just read that you can upgrade neither the HD or the RAM on the new MBpro Retinas. That's me not getting one then.

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Here's a problem I forsee with the Retina displays on the MBPs:

Basically, you're getting a higher resolution, but occupying different pixel space. So basically, an image on your iPhone 4 is the same real-life size as on an iPhone 3GS, however the iPhone 4 uses more pixels to show it in the same size.

There's a problem that you've no doubt seen if you have an iPhone 4 and that is that the majority of web images are not optimised for this behaviour. So, you'll go to a site on the 3GS and the icons will look normal, while you go to the same site on the iPhone 4 and suddenly the icons look blurry/pixellated and overscaled. This is because it's the same resolution of image, but it's being stretched 2x by the retina display.

It's a really difficult concept to explain, let alone imagine in your head, but basically, it'll mean that when you browse to websites on a retina-display Macbook Pro, every single image on the internet will look the same kind of blurry and overscaled. This is probably worse than with the iPhone, because there's no real rush for web developers to optimise for the relatively tiny OSX+Safari marketshare.

I wonder if they've come up with something to mitigate this problem.

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Would the problem be confined to video and images? I imagine a workaround regarding textual content is relatively straightforward.

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Text will be fine, because it's rendered based on the font, and the resolution will increase. The same holds true for vector imagery on web pages (such as HTML5 sprites or CSS3 effects like rounded edges etc.) but when something is an actual image (for example, the home/new/refresh/search/messages icons on this forum) it'll not be magically able to conjure up pixels that aren't there and will blur. I had to create 2x versions of all the mobile site icons in order to stop them looking like ass on an iPhone 4.

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Actually that's the best way to explain it - on the mobile version of the board, the icons are displayed at a size of 24px by 24px. However the icons are actually sized at 109px by 109px and then shrunk by CSS to fit into 24px square. On non-retina screens, this won't look any sharper however on the retina display, it looks sharp and matches the resolution of the screen. If I'd left the images themselves at 24px, the retina displays would be stretching them up to a much higher resolution and then shrinking them back down to fit to the retina equivalent of 24px.

Basically - web developers have to create 2 images for every 1 image they want on their site. And one of those versions will use a hell of a lot more bandwidth compared to the other.

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That's a really really difficult concept to explain Matthew, can you try it again?

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Macs Deffo run better for longer without having to have much attention. That's just a fact! PCs are great cos u can open them and fix bits and replace bits but windows is a bloated operating system that always feels as if its in development. There are so many driver conflicts and stuff that go wrong on pc. That's why I think people, especially in the creative industries use macs so much - who needs the hassle of fixing the damn thing so much?! I have both pc and Mac and love them for different reasons but of I said macs weren't a much nicer and simpler computing experience I would be lying!

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and i have an ipad which is the best thing i have bought in years

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I thought that was an excellent explanation. I want an upgrade but there is no way I'm spending that on a MBP. Maybe get the 1299 one. I don't do any real graphic or sound work really, just development and general browsing and uni work on my current macbook so I guess if I upgraded to one of the airs it would be dead on. Advice anyone?

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does the one you have struggle? if not then your paying 1300 quid just because there is a new one out. If you can afford it then i guess go for it

i was going to buy a new laptop but decided to format my 6 yr old macbook and install lion and it's running my programs fine

probably save a bit and get a new macbook after next summer if this one isn't handling well

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Nah no issues at all to be honest. It really is because when I used windows I always upgraded every two to three years. This one will be three in October. I notched up the RAM to 4GB and installed Lion. No issues whatsoever. Still performs brilliantly. Probably better doing what you're doing and saving for a year.

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I'm getting myself the new iMac, just the entry level and upping the RAM myself. All the new ones will take up to 32GB apparently :O

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